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My husband is 80 years old and is an alcoholic. His drinking got completely out of control and I moved out for two weeks in May until he would go into residential treatment. Unfortunately, after four months of sobriety, his dementia did not clear up at all. He is now in a memory care center and desperate to come home. He has been at the memory care since the first of October. The first week he was there he asked for some wine that he saw another resident getting. Neither one of them knew it was non-alcoholic, but it showed me that he would immediately go back to his drinking if he came home. Does anybody have any experience with alcoholism and dementia? If the alcohol is more not an issue, he could definitely be at home.

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Don't release him from his facility. My Dad started drinking immediately upon being released from his rehab facility.
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You are doing the right thing for both of you. Alcoholism and dementia are impossible to control. Not fair to sacrifice your last years for what you cannot control.

Cut back the visits to holidays instead. All you can do is protect yourself at this point.

You didn't cause this, can't fix it....and your moral obligation is to keep him safe. I'm sorry you are in this situation.
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His drinking behaviors appear to be firmly entrenched in his lifestyle. Addiction of any type tends to lead more towards dementia since it impairs brain function. If you bring him home, you could probably manage with nonalcoholic options of his favorite beverages. If he is difficult to manage at home, a memory care unit may be the best housing option for him.
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Rifferty Nov 14, 2024
I cannot possibly be the alcohol Police. He has been sneaking alcohol into the house and lying about it for a few years. I have left for a couple weeks at a time over the past few years and he has never ever come to grips with his alcoholism. Also, if he came home, he would be hounding me about driving, and with his dementia and alcohol use that would be a disaster. I have come to the realization that he must be kept safe from himself. I am so glad to have found this very lovely dementia care facility that has two sides, one for higher functioning, and one for lower functioning. So he is with others who walk and talk and dress and feed themselves . It is very very sad that is where his life decisions has caused him to end up to keep himself safe from his addictions.
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Rifferty: The alcoholic will go to great lengths to obtain their crutch. Adding dementia to the problem Is doubly hard.
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Rifferty Nov 14, 2024
Thank you for your comment about the alcoholism. Yes I have finally come to grips with the fact that he must be in a dementia care facility in order to protect him from himself and his addictions.
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Thank you to everyone for your support, encouragement and helpful comments. Sadly he is so very angry that I have “abandoned” him. Is it better for me to not visit him since he gets so angry that I won’t take him home? They tell me that he engages in activities and is not so agitated when I am not there. Or, do I visit regularly and just keep my visits short?
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ElizabethY Nov 10, 2024
It's okay not to visit. You've tried to support him for years, there's no need to be beaten up over the good and reasonable decision you made because of his alcoholism and dementia. You made a good decision to help keep him (and you) safe. You did not abandon him.
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Rifferty,

Please see a certified elder care attorney. Make sure you are handling things in a way that will protect your future if you have not done so. This is not a temporary situation.

Not only will your Dh want to drink but being around familiar people, places and things will be difficult for him and will tempt him over and over. He will not be in a safe environment. There is no safe environment. That adds an extra layer of stress for the both of you. His dementia will increase in time and perhaps his desire to go home will lessen.

Your own anxiety needs attention. The meetings Alva suggested can offer you insight. You can attend a meeting before going to see DH and see if that helps you be at peace with the decision you have had to make.

Welcome to the forum.
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Rifferty Nov 9, 2024
Thank you. I do have an appointment with an elder care attorney.
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Dementia will never "clear up" even alcohol induced dementia. Once the damage is done, it's done even if the substance causing it is removed. I went through something similar with my husband. Sustained sobriety did improve some behaviors but his memory remained impaired. Alcoholism is a horrible disease, he probably now lacks the capacity to meaningfully particpate in recovery which is why when he was offered alcohol ( not knowing it wasn't) that he leapt at the opportunity.
Someone with full cognition in recovery may have made a different choice if they were utilizing the skills they learned in rehab. But he likely forgot those due to the memory impairment. Of course he is desparate to return home where he will likely resume drinking and his dementia will progress. Even in dementia, alcoholics will still revert to ingrained manipulative behaviors to obtain their alcohol. He was accepted into memory care for a reason and he is best left there. If he is 80, how old are you? At this point in life if you have been married to an alcoholic for awhile you deserve some peace and freedom from his addiction to alcohol. You've got the opportunity for that now. No matter how much he begs and pleads and tries to convince you that he has been misplaced there, stand strong and let yourself have a life.
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Rifferty Nov 10, 2024
Thank you for your reply. I’m 76 and in great health and very active.
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Yes. I do have experience with it, if ony peripherally through my much beloved brother (now deceased) who had an alcoholic partner who got both alcoholic encephalopathy and then finally a primary aphasia in which he was completely unable to communicate at all other than garbled nonsense. This man got beautiful care until his death; it was a long journey, and a very sad one. Dementia is sad enough (my brother was diagnosed with Lewy's) but the addition of alcohol will make it a crucible.

And I will say this to you. The alcoholic will do ANYTHING to get the alcohol; my brother's partner left his ALF over and over to do so. He was finally wearing the police supplied bracelet to keep him on premises and there was gathering mouthwash from everywhere to drink it. It is an easy drunk, and a cheap drunk, and very tough on the brain, so every substitute he found for alcholol (Kitty Dukakis admitted to using hair spray) was dangerous and took him father down.

It was pretty awful.
For yourself, and you are the only one over which you have control I strongly suggest Al Anon. I would imagine in all this long time you have already tried it. If not, that's a shame. If so, go back and never stop going again.
You cannot do anything about any of this.
But you CAN make a decent life for yourself.
I am so sorry.
I feel that the trauma of attempting to care for his partner through this period of time took my brother down and out with more certainty. I recognize it was his choice. I hope you don't make that choice for your own life.
I fear it is too late for hubby. But not for you.
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I had a young client sixty-four years of age who had dementia and alcoholism. He drank over a fifth a day and smoked one cigar after the other.

He was diagnosed with stage three lung cancer. Stopping the drinking will not get rid of the dementia that probably caused it in the first place. Wernicke Korsakoff is alcoholic induced dementia.
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He’s been four months sober. He is happy having na wine or beer. Let him.
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The dementia is the core issue, and sadly, won’t get better, only worsen. Hubby is exactly where he needs to be. You’ve done a good job keeping him safe and cared for, please don’t waver now. It’s normal for him to want to come home, redirect the conversation to another topic, as many times as needed. If he persists, leave and visit another time. You’re very correct, the alcohol would be an immediate issue if he came home, a danger to you both. Stay the course. I wish you both peace
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He will still have dementia even if he doesn't drink. He's in Memory Care. It means he doesn't remember he shouldn't drink. I don't think you are having realistic expectations for him. He probably has Wernicke-Korsakoff dementia, a type that is common in long-term alcoholics. There is no cure for dementia.
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