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Hi y'all. We recently moved my grandma into a very nice assisted living facility. She lives in a normal looking apartment with a beautiful view, there are lots of activities each day, and the food is great. The only thing that gives it away are the floor nurses that do check ups every now and then. They are very nice. The issue is, my grandma is having a very difficult time adjusting. I empathize with that. However, she cannot go back to her condo. Just before we moved her out, she had nearly started a fire by leaving papers in the oven and turning it on. She needs to be in this care home for her own safety and well-being. She cannot prep and plan meals for herself anymore and lost 12 lbs due to not eating earlier this year. My question is- how do I show her I empathize with her longing for familiarity while also remaining firm that I will not take her back to the condo where she can't take care of herself?

It is common and very natural for a person to need time to adjust to a new living situation as your grandmother is now - needing to do. It could take a couple of months.

Some facilities will say / encourage family to 'not visit.'
It is up to you how to proceed / support her.

I like the way you ask your question "how do I show her I empathize ... "
I suggest the way you do this is by being an ACTIVE REFLECTIVE LISTENER.

This means you listen and reflect her words back to her.
i.e., "I hear you saying "you feel sad and want to go home."
You never ever argue with her as you won't win - that only causes emotional upset for her and you. You say "I understand how you feel ... I am sad too" then you stop talking.

You give her room to get out whatever feelings / emotions she has that she can express, or crying if that is her way.

While she is so SO VERY fortunate to be in a nice assisted living facility, this isn't a concern to her now. However, she will be aware of appreciating it 'more' when she adjusts to her new life - style.

It is hard for most people to handle / manage change. It is 200% harder for an older person losing their mental / cognitive abilities - and independence as they have known all their life.

In terms of losing weight, you might try milkshakes or anything that she likes - sweets, pizza ...

Hold her hand.
Look into her eyes.
Smile and tell her you love her.
Perhaps say "I wish things were different TOO"
I wouldn't push her to get into activities or go to the dining room although I would encourage you to take walks with her in common areas and introduce her to others as it feels right.

I really appreciate you as a granddaughter - caring for your grandmother as you are doing. What about your mother? her daughter? Is she in the picture / supporting this transition.

Depending on her cognitive abilities, you might want to tell her that this move is temporary while her place is being repaired / renovated. She may forget with time. If she won't forget, do not tell her this as a way to calm her down.

There is no such behavior as lying when it comes to supporting a person with dementia. You tell them what will keep them as calm as possible, realizing that they are scared, confused, wanting what they had, fearing the loss of independence.

Telling her you understand how she feels is huge. Just let her talk and share yourself emotionally, too. "I feel very sad, too. I love you grandma."

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Grandma has enough sense to know this is not home. It will never be home, it is a facility, period. A facility, with rules and regulations, where there is a time to eat, a time to get medication, where she has to sign out or have someone sign her out and in to leave the premises. Even signing her out, there may be a time limit on how long she can be away from the facility.

She may "adjust" better if she can come to terms with this.
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TouchMatters Dec 2, 2024
Please consider how you are making definite statements, especially when you do not understand brain chemistry changes (i.e., dementia). You do not offer anyone here support making these kinds of statements.

The truth is ... a person with dementia 'will' get used to their environment over time. They will forget the past because their brain cells have died / are dying and they do not remember / recall the past. It takes time to adjust to new surroundings, people, etc.

You are responding as if this is a person in college ...
What this person - and all people with dementia need is: compassion, patience, and an understanding of what dementia is (losing brain cells which means 'forgetting the past" because they do not have the ability to recall / remember. The person learns to trust the immediate day-to-day caregivers, nurses, aides, etc. It does make a huge difference if these employees are compassionate and caring.

Some or many people with dementia 'live in a fantasy world' - re-living growing up on a farm and having company over ... making brownies or lunch for everyone.
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Kind of divert her to conversation about what she likes in her home - which may or may not actually be a home she lived in earlier than her condo. Ask her what kinds of things she does now that she enjoys and what she would enjoy doing that she hasn't had time for lately.
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Sadly it sounds like a difficult adjustment.
We moved Grandma into our home, but we have a more European approach to everything. We have aged homes in my area, but our background has a focus on keeping family together.
That fire could have ended in disaster .... glad that she is okay.
Maybe to get a quick perspective, ask yourself, how you would react if you were moved out of your home into an assisted living facility?
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Your pose good questions, although the question needs to be asked "if you moved out of your home - with dementia - being confused and losing brain functioning" - this is very different from a person having their full mental/cognitive abilities.

Although what you say expresses COMPASSION for another ... and putting their self in the place of another ... projecting how another feels.

This is huge and very important to do.

Projecting how another feels speaks of maturity and being highly aware and developed. I try to do this in all my interactions, esp when I feel hurt or responded to in ways other than what I expected. Putting our 'self' in another's shoes shows immense maturity and self-awareness.
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thefairestrose: State to her that it wouldn't be possible for her to return home due to the fact that she almost started a fire; fortunately she lived.
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This doesn't work with a person inflicted with dementia.
She will say she didn't ... she won't remember or believe that she did that.

Trying to talk 'logic' to a person with dementia only causes emotional upheaval / upset and a potential argument.

This is exactly what not to to do.

Of course, it depends on the degree of dementia and how the brain functions / what parts are no longer functioning. Still, it is not advised to ever argue or talk logic to a person with dementia. It doesn't work. What works is reflective active listening or non-verbal communcation - smiling, holding their hand ... showing caring. A person with advanced dementia will 'get it' that a person cares by non-verbal communication and very little verbal communication.
I used to say to my client "Oh, I understand... that is interesting ... She had advanced dementia and spoke gibberish - although she really knew I cared and for two years, she always remembered me when I visited (weekly).

Google Teepa Snow ... watch her You Tubes, read her books, take her webinars ... learn how to communicate with a person inflicted with dementia watching Teepa. She is poetry in motion. I learned alot from her.
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Can you go visit at meal times so
you can go with her to the cafeteria or other activities? If she has you as a wingman, she may be braver or more likely to try new things or participate in things that she isn’t as comfortable doing alone. Once she has a friend or a couple people she recognizes … she may learn to enjoy having meals with them or doing activities with them. Look at the calendar and see which things you think she’ll most enjoy .. then go to those with her. Help her ease into it. Talk to the positives .. when having a meal, “grandma - this is delicious. How fun that you have your own chef now. You have staff now.” Help her see it from a different point of view. Another idea bring food or treats or something holiday themed like that to give to the people that live in the apartments closest to hers to bridge the gap between strangers and neighbors. Who doesn’t love homemade chocolate chip cookies, as an example. If she finds a friend - everything changes. All the sudden she’s got a reason .. a person to talk to, to go to stuff with, to share her time with. My happiest times in my life are those where I had a close friend nearby.
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It takes time to adjust to an assisted living facility. Where she used to be independent, now she has to follow the facility's schedule, eat when and what they eat, and people come in to clean her room and laundry, check up on her, ask her if she wants to participate in activities, etc. That's a good thing, but people who are used to independence may not see it that way. When you visit, don't try to explain why she can't go home, rather gently tell her that she needs more care at this stage in her life and try to change the subject. Get her talking about something else. Visit as often as you can, and keep your attitude positive. Tell her you love her. If you can, take her for outings occasionally. Check her closets and medicine cabinet to make sure she has clothes and lotions, soap, tissues, incontinence supplies, etc. If you buy clothes for her, get comfortable items that are easy to get on and off (wide neclines, loose fitting, elastic waist) and can be machine washed and dried. Give it time. All the best to you both and happy holidays!
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Nobody wants to be somewhere like jail. Clearly she is not happy so ask her what will make her happy and do it! If it conflicts with your own happiness you have a problem and need to work hard to find a compromise. Life is all about compromises
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Sami1966 Nov 30, 2024
This is ridiculous response. Don’t pay attention to it.
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As I read your words, my heart ached. We literally just went through this. My two sons Paternal 97 year old grandmother just passed away last Thursday and her funeral is coming up. She was a Saint of a woman. Her kids (ranging in age from 58-73) put her in a facility with her thinking it was just temporary. I could tell by how they kept moving her items in, that it was not. She longed to be "back home." Her ''back home" was at the luxery apartment complex where we live also.

There is a lot to be said for the soul of a person. I believe it needs as much care as the body. I knew if I could convince her "kids" to allow her the desires of her heart, and live with me, she would thrive, even at the age of 97! My Sons and I borrowed a beautiful twin bed from my sister and we set up an incredibly cute area in our living room. We had her sister's (who has already passed away) chair right beside her bed with giving her the view she loved; the fountain in the pond and being able to watch the people in the community walk about! She came for a "visit" and loved it! I took an accredited care giving course ($) so her "kids would feel more comfortable. She wanted to be with family.

We did everything we could and eventually she lost hope. She started asking her kids if they would allow her to go on. Her vitals were all good every time she was checked. Sitting alone in the nursing facility, in my opinion shorted her already long life. She lost the hope and will to live. Her kids started bringing a hospice nurse in, and when my sons and I stopped in...she went from eating to being given morphine, to not being conscious enough to eat or drink. As she whispered her last words to me, "Pray for strength," I knew the morphine was taking away the rest of her ability to life. She didn't even get a fighting chance to see and witness life outside of the nursing home. Instead, she had to hear the constant beeping and watching people being taken out on gernies.

Now, with that being said, sometimes a family member can't give their loved one their last wishes. I understand that, but for me, if I have a little bit of space and the ability to bring someone in and shower them with love and care for their last bit of life on earth...I'd fight lions and bears to do so (and I did, to no avail). I have told my sons, ''I'd rather die earlier with family, than to live longer in a facility without family." Our dear loved one would have been around her grandsons, listening to them laugh, enjoying their kind-hearted serving (they are 18 & 24), and just enjoyed love. Better that than being sedated and basically starve to death. (No offense to hospice, because they help a lot of people who are suffering. She just wasn't and was fine one day and on morphine the next).

I want to hug you, because what you're dealing with is HARD! Ican feel your love for her and your desire to do what is right. I pray that the Lord guide you in your decision, and He gives you an ear to hear His wisdom on the matter. I hope this may have helped, and not made the feelings worse.

In Christ,
Lisa
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BurntCaregiver Nov 30, 2024
I too would rather die younger and at home than in a nursing home. Death comes from us all and at 97 it's okay to let someone go.

Your grandmother's adult kids did not put her into care out of spite or to be cruel to her. They did it because she needed to be placed. I hope you're not attempting to guilt-trip them now over it.

Good for you taking an accredited caregiving course (whatever that is) but let me tell you something and I say with 25 years as a homecare APCNA, a Hospice-at-Home one and a homecare business owner. Taking a class and having the best of intentions is very different than actually being the caregiver to an elder. You may believe that your 97 year-old grandmother would have thrived under your care. She likely wouldn't have. Your family did you a favor moving her into your place. Don't be hard on them.

God bless your grandmother and she's at peace now. Keep your good memories of her in your heart.
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I am guardian for my singing friend of 35 years who has no living relatives. Lack of appetite and weight loss due to vascular dementia forced her moving to a memory unit on palliative care. That was about 6 weeks ago. At first she was very quiet with the constant questions of "Where am I? What's going on? etc." I was honest with her about her not going home, but she didn't remember it the next day, so I decided not to cause her more anxiety by repeating that truth. Gradually she started being a bit more upbeat and talkative. When her other good friend from our singing trio called her last week, she asked her what she had had for dinner. Our friend said, "A frozen dinner." When the other friend said she was sure they didn't serve her a frozen dinner (The food is very good there.) our friend said, "Oh I'm home now." The other friend just said that that was wonderful. We know that means more cognitive loss, but we are thankful that she feels more peacefulness.
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Hello, Fairest Rose! I literally just went through this over the summer with my mom, so I feel for you. <3 And there's no answer other than giving it time. Remember, she didn't move willingly (or at least not happily), she's probably aware of her decline, and it's hard enough getting older without all this added stress. There aren't many harder things to hear than "You are unable to take care of yourself." Her assisted-living situation, no matter how great it is, is a reminder of this every single day. So, she'll just have to take her time settling in and getting adjusted, and you'll need to allow that.

Remember, when she says she "wants to go home" what she's mostly actually saying is "I want things to be the way they were when I was okay." My mom still talks about driving places and going out on her own and all these things she simply can't do — total denial — because they represent the life she had. I can't say enough how hard it is to have this taken away from them. So adjusting is difficult and takes time, and your grandma may never 100% come to it. But most likely, she'll eventually settle into a "new normal" and her happiness will go back up.

Each person is different, and your grandma may be very different than my mom, so I can't give specific recommendations. My most basic advice is to emphasize whatever it is that your grandma values and now has. Is it socializing? Is it not having to clean and make meals? Is it not having to deal with as many bills? Is it the (hopefully) yummy food? Is it the game room, afternoon tea, or religious services right down the hallway? Whatever it is she has now and values, focus on those things. She probably won't admit it, but her condo (although home) was probably overwhelming. This is very common for older single people. So at the very least, she'll likely appreciate the simplicity of her new living situation in time.

And to answer your specific question, show your empathy by just listening and saying you understand. Tell her you can imagine how hard it is, but don't dwell on things too much. What I've found works best is to spend a few minutes acknowledging the feeling, and then pivot to a related positive topic. Asking questions about her far past is often an excellent way to do this. She's probably at a stage where her new memory isn't great, but her older memories are solid. This is your chance to relive those with her through questions. This is also your chance to learn things about her you may not know... her childhood, her wedding day, her time in school, her career, etc. What this also does is remind her that she's had a full life; she's probably done more than she realizes. Hopefully most of it was happy and good. Talking about this reminds her that she mattered and made a difference. Whatever she was good or accomplished at, focus on that. One of the biggest things older people need is to feel valued because our society and culture absolutely suck at providing this. The days of "wise elders" is gone, and people spend more time making fun of them or ignoring them. So, anything that reminds her she's been a valued part of society, life, family, and community is loving and helpful.

You seem like a wonderful grandchild, so she's at least got that. I think you'll be fine. Listen to her, listen to your heart and intuition, and go with that. It's also important to remember that there's often subtext to what people say in her situation. Tune into the underlying feelings instead of the spoken words, and ask. For example, when she asks/mentions about going to the condo, ask what she's missing about it. Then, try to bring that into her life, either literally or figuratively.

Last, don't focus *too* much on the safety issue. It's okay to mention it, but don't dwell on it. Most likely she's in some denial about it, and at the very least, it's a reminder of what she's losing (independence, competence, etc.). So, it's another thing where it comes up, you acknowledge it, and pivot.
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fluffy1966 Nov 30, 2024
So very well expressed and written! And YES, our Western culture is abysmal when it comes to valuing our Elders. The exact opposite of revering a "Wise Woman" or asking an elder for reflections on life. Nope, this does not happen very much at all. We as a country are going to pay a price for this Youth Worship societal focus.
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You are clearly a very kind person and have done the right thing for your grandmother. I too am moving my dad and his wife of 47 years into assisted living this week. My experience comes from moving them out of their home to a retirement home in "independent living" in July. Their situation was way more out of control than yours but I found them voicing wanting to go back home frequently. I was told by experienced caregivers that it takes about three months to acclimate. That held true. I learned a lot reading the book "The 36 Hour day: a family guide to Caring for People who have Alzheimer disease and other dementias", I also reference the Alzheimer association materials and found there that saying "This is your place now" is a strong phrase and to not use the word "home" as that has a different meaning. Both my parents have dementia and it changes daily in their understanding and meaning so you repeat yourself a lot. Also, smiling and thinking to yourself, "all is well" keeps you upbeat and happy and they will feel that also. Best of luck as this is a tough journey.
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thefairestrose, it always take anyone time to adjust to a new home, even us at our age, children and pets take time to adjust. Everything is different, the floorplan is different, the food, the noises, the faces of the Staff and other residents.


I am just curious why your Grandmother is in Assisted Living instead of being in Memory Care where the Staff is very familiar with Alzheimer's and dementia issues, and know how to deal with such?


Another thing to note, if Grandma starts saying she was to "go home", please note that usually means she wants to go back to her childhood home, being with siblings (if any), and be a kid again in happy times. This is when "therapeutic fibs" come in handy, like telling her the house is being painted, or plumbers are working on a major issue. I had to use such with my Mom, and it worked :)
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chapman53 Nov 30, 2024
She wouldn't necessarily need memory care — that's a much higher level. My mom has early-mid dementia, and she's in assisted living and only at level 1 (of 3). Nothing mentioned above is indicative of the grandma being advanced enough to need memory care. In addition, memory care is usually 40-60% more costly than assisted living. It's not something a person is moved into until it's truly necessary, which is typically when they've become a genuine risk (most often for wandering off). The grandma in this situation sounds like she's still capable of most of her ADLs (activities of daily living).
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It’s heartwarming to see how much care and thought you’ve put into your grandma’s well-being. Transitions like this can be incredibly challenging, especially when she’s longing for the familiarity and independence of her previous home. Balancing empathy with firmness is tough, but you’re on the right track. Here are a few suggestions that might help:

Acknowledge Her Feelings:

Let her know you understand how hard this move is for her. Phrases like, “I know how much you miss your condo and the independence it gave you” can go a long way in validating her emotions.

Recreate Familiarity in Her New Space:
Bring items from her condo, such as her favorite chair, decorations, or family photos, to help her new apartment feel more like home.
Encourage her to participate in activities that match hobbies she enjoyed before.

Frame the Move Positively:
Focus on the benefits of her new home, like the great food, social activities, and beautiful view. Highlighting these positives might help her appreciate the change more.

Set Boundaries with Compassion:
Gently remind her that her safety and health are the priorities. You might say something like, “Grandma, I want you to be somewhere you can be safe and cared for. I would never forgive myself if something happened to you while you were alone.”

Have you considered involving a guardian or care advocate? Sometimes, having someone step in as a neutral party to oversee her safety and well-being can help ease the emotional strain and allow her to live more independently while ensuring her needs are met. A guardian could help her transition smoothly and even revisit the possibility of her living on her own with the right supports in place.
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You tell her that you are waiting for the doctor to determine that she is safe to go home
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You show her that you empathize by doing just that, and doing it honestly.
Tell her that you understand how many losses come with aging, and you will be there soon enough, and that you admire the courage with which she has faced her losses. Tell her that you can only imagine how hard this is for her, but that it is necessary now for her safety and well-being. Tell her that the sad truth is that now this is home for her, and she is going to have to make the best of it that she can.

This is one of the few times that "giving hope" is out of the question.
She sees you as a possible means of rescue and escape.

My brother said to me finally, about the necessity that he had to be ALF (and he tried to remain in his last little home, but recognized that with me usually 1/2 the state away he would be a burden and dependent on his helpful community, and happily made this choice HIMSELF)--that this was a bit like being in the army when he was young. He didn't much like it but he would make the best of it. And he did. People react in different ways but there is a period of mourning that isn't unlike the loss of a loved one. For most of us our home is our haven, and is almost a sentient being. This loss comes second only to the loss of your entire mind.

There's no way to make it all happy now, and YOU aren't responsible for her happiness. She will now live out her time as well as she is able. There's no way to make nice-nice out of it and I know you already recognize that from what you are saying.

Be certain not to negate her feelings.
It is now such meaningless platitudes of:
I am so sorry this is so hard.
I hear you and I feel so sad for you.
I hope things will get a bit better as this seems more like home.

Good luck.
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ElizabethAR37 Nov 30, 2024
So true. As I've said many times, it is what it is. There is no "happy" in old-old age.
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Sad it has come to this. As much as not being a big fan of facilities, try to see if her apartment can be as "warm like" as possible. It will never be home, but it can be a place where she can feel some sort of comfort.
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