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camera in a bathroom is not legal.
And check your state there may be restrictions on audio as well if her cameras allow audio. Both parties have to agree to an audio recording.
Tell your sister now that you have changed your mind and that you can not watch mom.
Yes family will try to "guilt trip" you. But it is a trip you do not have to go on.
You can lay out 2 options for your sister.
1 mom goes to respite for 2 weeks while she is gone.
2 Mom pays for caregivers to be there while your sister is gone. You can be there as well but the caregivers will do 99% of the caregiving. (you can be there overnight so there is not a need for an overnight caregiver. One can come in the morning to get mom ready)

And I have to ask....
Your mom fell. people fall and they do not need a "nursing home"
I could understand maybe a move to Assisted Living but not a Skilled Nursing facility.
You do not mention dementia. So I am going to assume that mom has not been diagnosed with dementia. all you mention in your profile is "age related decline"
Is there a reason she needs caregivers?
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I'm pretty sure a camera in the bathroom is illegal in most states. It is for sure illegal in my state (PA).

If your mom can't adjust to you being there for an evening, there is no way she will be peaceful with you there for an extended period of time.

I think your sister needs to take the reigns and tell mom she is going on vacation and that mom will have her own vacation too at a respite care location. And then you can visit mom at the respite care twice a week just as if she were home.

I have no doubt that your sister needs this vacation. But you need to be honest and say that you don't think you can be the one to step in.
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BurntCaregiver Mar 2022
People can put cameras wherever they want in their own home.
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Perhaps you talk about your last attempt at overnight. Mother wouldn’t do what she normally does for sister, she simply refused, wouldn’t go to bed, wouldn’t sleep, told you to go home. Sister does such a fantastic job that Mother won’t accept anyone else. It was only resolved when sister came home, and she’s not planning to come home for 2 weeks! You can’t risk that happening again, for her health and your own.

Mother needs to go somewhere where there is a night shift used to coping with this, and able to sit up all night. So sorry Sis, you’ve done such a great job that I can’t replace you!
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I'd like to add that there are other ways to help besides having to be a live-in for 2 weeks. Helping the caregiver sister should be in a way that works for BOTH of the siblings.

People have different skills, temperaments & other life pressures.

The burden of care is not equal either.

2cents's comments got me thinking about that awful word *selfish*.

Let's call these folk Jan & Jon. Jan is full-time caregiver of Mom. Jon has been asked to fill in for Jan's 2 weeks holiday. Only 14 days! VS Jan's 351 days.

Jon says no. Jan calls him selfish & starts a guilt campaign.

Is Jon selfish?

But wait.. there's more.

Jan loves spending time with Mom, they have an close, easy relationship & share many interests. Jan is retired, comfortably off & single.

Jon is self-employed. So any time off is unpaid. When Jon takes time off to Mom-sit his wife is forced to work double shifts & grows resentful. The more Jon does for his Mom, he comes home down or angry. There is more pressure on his marriage too. Jon was a wild teen & Mom never 'got' him. Mom also still thinks of him as The Baby & she won't be taking orders from The Baby! Jon dreads being her sitter. He thinks Mom should spend a few weeks in a care home when Jan goes on holidays instead.

Jan says she just wants Mom to be happy. To do everything for her & will never ever send her away. She really enjoys the praise from others too... "what a GOOD daughter".

Jan thinks Jon needs to do things her way. To sit whenever she needs & drop everything for her holiday plans, despite the hardships it causes him.

Is Jan selfish?
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Tynagh Mar 2022
IMHO that is a load of -- how shall I say this -- poop. So because Jan is single and retired that means that Jon's needs take precedence because he has a spouse to help back him up when he has to care give. That is just plain old singlism and sexism. A married boy gets preference for his needs over that of a single girl. Yes, he's selfish. Daughter is essentially butt-wiping, cooking, feeding, taking care of meds and appts and dear son is inconvenienced for two weeks and DIL gets her nose out of joint because she is inconvenienced for two weeks. Yeah, Jon, not Jan is selfish.
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Agree with posters that you tell sis that the cameras are a no go. If she disagrees, and you still are going to go, unplug them when you arrive. If she throws a fit, nicely remind her that you told her you did not agree to them and will not tolerate them. So insulting!

Since she has her hands full with your mom, she can't understand or really care about you being busy with your own family. You are going to have to stand up to her and let the chips fall where they may. If your sister is a kind and reasonable person, she will understand. If she's not, there will be a schism in your relationship. But I think that's already happened due to her demands on you.
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Beatty Mar 2022
Excellent advice.
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When is sister leaving? If you even have a few days, first thing tomorrow start calling home care agencies to see if it is possible to set up caregivers for the 2 weeks. This is what mom's money is for - her care. Also could call a few nursing homes to see if they are doing respite care and if they have openings for the dates your sister will be gone.

Then tomorrow afternoon, email/text/or call your sister and tell her what you have found out about who can do the caregiving and how much it will cost your mom and that you just can't possibly do it.

Can you agree to be the contact person for the caregivers so your sister can actually have a 2 week break? She certainly deserves that.

Sister may be mad as hell but so what. Tell her that you're mad as hell that she's trying to force you into this against your wishes and better judgement.

Good luck.
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I say on the selfish side....because....I've been on the 24/7 end of it. I did not want my parent to EVER go to a NH or facility, so I did the hard work. However, with that said, caregivers need a break. Do it for her. Even if you would have let mom go to a facility, you have a sibling who is trying to keep mom at home. Give her a 2 week rest.

If visiting 2 times a week and sitting every once in a while is tiresome, imagine how much your sister needs the rest. Some sibs have to be guilted a little (if it's possible) to get some help. Just step up and do it for sis. Trust me, your mom's quality of life is much better with all the care your sis provides. Facility care can turn out to be a nightmare and those who only visit every so often have no idea what has gone on. Help you sister.
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againx100 Mar 2022
sorry but this is not great advice. If she doesn't want to do it, she shouldn't.
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I so feel for you. To make it worse, your husband is not supporting you, he is supporting the people who are using you. Watch out...he might "volunteer" you for his "family" next, if he hasn't already.

The sooner you find your "voice" and gather up the courage to do what you want to do, the easier it will be to find your "voice" and gather up the courage to do what you want, the next time this happens...and I guarantee, it will happen again.

It's kind of like raising teenagers. They test the boundaries and if they like the outcome, and the consequences are tolerable, they do it again, or test the boundaries even further. Your sister likes the fact that she can leave your Mom in your capable hands, and that you and Mom won't raise a fuss, and she doesn't have to arrange/pay for anyone else.

If it isn't already too late, you might do the research now and find out how to provide care for Mom if you didn't provide it while your sister is away. Then you will be ready with alternatives when the situation repeats itself. Your sister deserves these breaks, so figure out a way so that you are comfortable with how Mom will be handled while your sister is away.
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tryingmybest8 Mar 2022
Yes, my sister likes that I will fill in. I know if I keep going there, nothing will change. I will try to get her to understand, but for now I’m going to fill in. I don’t know why she can’t see how demanding my life is.
As far as teenagers, I have my youngest starting college this fall and her sister graduates college in May. I have my hands full with my 8 kids (5 married) and 9 grandkids. What more can I say? My husband’s parents passed away many years ago.
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If sister is not taking money from mom to help her, then sister is expecting you to do the same. If sister is getting paid to help mom, then use money to hire respite care for mom when sister is on vacation. If you can not fulfill this obligation, tell your husband, your sister, your mother... and discuss other options that work.
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So cover the cameras without telling anyone ahead of time. That is if you don't back out of it.
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"Why can’t I tell my sister to hire someone else?"

Yes this is a worthy question to ask yourself. Is Sister older & you were always taught she was in charge? Or because she has taken on the brunt of the caregiver you feel you should help her? Or is she a bossy type & you have a milder temperament?

I seemed to have a lot of reasons I didn't say no when I should have. I felt I "should".

Once I really shone a light on the reasons - most stemming from way back - I found my voice & said no. It was weak at first. Now much more confident.

Now I have no guilt. I say no.

Your sister made the CHOICE to look after Mom.

You get to have a choice too.

If you can help out from time to time - great. If not, she finds alternatives. It may take time for your sister to realise this (or maybe she won't) but you are not her understudy.

I took a LOT for my family to realise this.

Maybe there are other ways you can help instead of sitting/caregiving?
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OP, you say, "My childhood nickname was Mouse, pretty appropriate." And, "I clearly am the type of person who lays down like a dormat. I don’t know if I have the backbone to stand up for myself anymore. I hope I can get up enough guts to stand up for myself."

If you keep telling yourself you're 'a mouse' and 'a doormat' and that you 'don't have guts', then that is the person you will continue to BE. Look in the mirror and practice saying affirmations like:

I am a strong & capable person!
I have backbone & strength!
I can easily stand up for myself!
I am worth it & I love myself!
I am not worthy of feeling guilt!
I am a selfless and loving woman!
I will not tolerate abuse from ANYONE because I am a child of God!

You'd be surprised what daily affirmations can do for your self esteem. If you're on Facebook, find Louise Hay who is now deceased but who's team posts daily uplifting affirmations in meme format that you can repeat to yourself. You can also purchase her books for your personal use. Her affirmation for today is:

"Today I no longer choose to live in the prison of my mind."

On Monday it was:

"I choose to feel good about myself today, and every day."

I hope that you are able to do what YOU want to do for your mother, whatever that may be. And that you don't allow anyone to 'guilt' you into doing something you don't want to do, your husband included. Nobody has a 'right' to film you, either, that is an invasion of YOUR privacy which is wrong, I don't care what your sister's 'good intentions' may be. You know what they say about the road to hell being paved with good intentions, right? :) Put painter's tape over those cameras or a hat or whatever, but don't put up with anything you don't feel comfortable with. Stand up for YOURSELF b/c you're worth it!

Wishing you the best of luck!
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tryingmybest8 Mar 2022
Thank you Lealonnie1, I will find this Facebook group and join. I’ve struggled all my life with the inability to say no. I am burnt out trying to make other people happy.
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I would ask for (insist on) the passwords to access these cameras so you can monitor things once she's back home - it's only fair, especially since you are joint POA 😏.
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tryingmybest8 Mar 2022
I did mention that to her, we’ll see what happens when she comes back. Thank you for your reply.
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OP, it is on us all to decide HOW we will help and make boundaries around that.

Inform the sister that you will be putting painters tape over the cameras for your own privacy. She can't be evesdropping on her own sister.
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tryingmybest8 Mar 2022
My son said to put a hat over the cameras. I like the painter’s tape, but I’m really going to struggle having this conversation with her. My childhood nickname was Mouse, pretty appropriate. Thank you for your post.
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I share caregiving duties with my sister. She would NEVER put a camera in the bathroom. I would NEVER agree to a situation where I would be on camera in the bathroom. I would NEVER want to be on a “caregiving team” if you will with someone who puts a camera in the bathroom — someone who has so little respect for the most basic of boundaries!

How soon is the trip? I would resign from Team “Candid Camera” today!
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tryingmybest8 Mar 2022
Yes, why would anyone feel the need for a camera? If she didn’t trust me, she shouldn’t have asked me. I would never do that to her.
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Just tell "everyone" that raising kids is very different than caregiving for a senior. (Old people are a lot heavier to pick up for one thing.) I, for one, did far better with the caregiving side than I did with babies, and I have a secret dread of the day grandchildren come along and need babysitting.

You aren't cut out to be a full-time caregiver, so just say so. There's no shame in it, so offer to help find respite care for Mom, because your sister does need a vacation.

I think the question if this is about money is about whether your sister is trying to preserve Mom's money to be inherited and perhaps to pay her for the caregiving. You're correct, though, that Mom's money is supposed to be for her care.
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tryingmybest8 Mar 2022
I don’t think it’s about money, but I don’t really know my sister’s situation. Ironically, she’s a very private person, always has been. Thanks for your reply!
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Thank you all for your spot on responses! I clearly am the type of person who lays down like a dormat. Mother has set up her springing POA to include either/or of us two. I feel sorry for sis because I’ve been a caregiver all my life. I know how hard it (still) is to always be on call. I don’t know if I have the backbone to stand up for myself anymore. Money may be an issue but not for me. Mother could fund a whole nursing home. I think that’s what money is for-to take care of you in your old age. I guess I’m posting here because I don’t think anyone near me is on my side. I hope I can get up enough guts to stand up for myself.
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PeggySue2020 Mar 2022
Tryingmybest, my SO got home just now. All the mother told him was that she had an appointment. Well this turned out to be a full-on outpatient surgery that she was late to because his dad didn't get out of bed and according to mom "s--t" himself. He was expected to get him up and help with the hygiene situation. His dad didn't want to get up. He told his mom that she needed more help, while $70K PAID DIL is sitting there saying "oh it's not that bad."

No, DIL, it is. You cannot handle this one old person, let alone two. They can keep paying you as some manager but you have never done the hands-on stuff for the male and he wouldn't let you anyway unlike with their indy, who is female. But every weekday, you're there with this DIL who can't do this. So you have to hire more help. That is it. That is all.
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I would simply tell them in future that you have not signed up for this; that you did not because your human limitations don't allow you to do so; embrace your limitations. I would never have agreed to this, and I am a nurse. If others wanted to take on a shift then you can spread the work; but they won't, even those smothered kids. So tell Sis, this is on you. Mom was safely placed. You decided to take her on. I can relieve for a night here and there, but this is out; arrange respite or don't go.
People are bullying you. They do it because it accept it. Learn to laugh them off with "Gee, I guess you thought I was a much nicer person than I really AM!!!!! I guess you thought I would CARE what you thought for a few seconds! I guess you were wrong".
And on you go. Embrace it. They want to make you the selfish one? EMBRACE SELFISHNESS.
As to WHY are they trying to guilt you?
WHO CARES!
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Only you, no one else can change the environment you have created.
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Is your sister you mother's PoA? If not, who is? This is important information to know to give your question and situation context.

No, you're not being selfish. No, you cannot reason with a mom with dementia since this ability disappears as the disease progresses. Yes, you can tell your bully sister to solve the problem she made for herself. No one can guilt you unless you let them. No one can make you do anything without your permission. No one can "assume" you into the caregiving job.

Your immediate family (spouse and children) have priority. Your sister seems to have made a plan based on assuming others to help her, but didn't ask your permission? Tell her and your husband you do not wish to provide the care for those 2 weeks, period. It is often said on this forum that family won't look for other solutions if you keep being the only solution for them. Saying no is not wrong and you don't have to give any other explanation. You can "soften" the change in plan by researching respite care options or vetting agencies who can provide temporary in-home help. They will be upset, even mad, but do not give in. Cameras in her bathroom? Yikes...I don't think that's legal...
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Great reply!
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You can't control what other people say and do, you can control what YOU do.
We get a lot of anger here on the forum from people whose siblings won't step up and help but generally it is pointed out that just because one family member feels compelled to be a caregiver it doesn't obligate the rest of them to help (although it's nice if they can and do), and even when there is an agreement among them it needs to be reevaluated periodically because a temporary minor commitment can easily creep into something overwhelming that stretches into years. How soon is sis going on her vacation? If it isn't imminent then there is still time to tell everyone you have had second thoughts about it and other arrangements will have to be made, personally I would push for a respite stay in an appropriate facility (memory care or nursing home depending on her needs).
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Who is the “everyone” whom you think are “trying to guilt you….”?

NO ONE can “guilt” you unless YOU are WILLING to LET YOURSELF GET GUILTED.

You CAN’T get through to your mom. IF you want to get through to your sister, you tell her that you have too many responsibilities and that you are going to STOP taking care of Mom and start taking care of YOU.

Will it cost you their relationships? It may. If it does ask yourself whether you want to be on Candid Camera every time nature calls.

Your SISTER WRONGED YOU when she unilaterally brought Mom home without a fair care plan in place, and if your husband is so co corned withYOUR DUTY! he can come and take a shift himself.

By the way, does money have anything to do with this mess?

Be strong, and do the right things FOR YOU!
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