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My husband has excessive tremors and poor eyesight. He bends and breaks his glasses, messes with his new iPhone util it won’t work then says the phone is broken. He has taken the phone in repeatedly to be “fixed”. He messes with TVs and remotes, thermostat, cars (you name it) util they no longer work. Then I have to reset and straighten out the messes. He cannot write anymore and barely reads. I can stand there saying, “Don’t push that button” and he looks right at me, while he pushes the button! In the hospital, he tried to take apart every piece of equipment in his room then snuck out of his room at night and into an empty room to take apart things there! How do I get him to leave things alone? Should I buy him a child’s toy electronics kit to play with?

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What if you supplied him with broken appliances so that he can take them apart as he pleases? Like a toaster, microwave, boom box, DVD player, old laptop, tv? Tell him they're broken and need fixing. Set up a "shop" for him in the house or your garage if he takes to it.
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lealonnie1 Dec 2023
I did that very thing with my son when he was little and insisted on taking things apart. I w would go to goodwill and ask for broken small appliances and electronics they couldn't sell. I'd bring home a giant bag and give goodwill $10. My son spent many hours taking all those things apart until I'd go back again.
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Have you thought about just taking away his phone and remote? You can just tell family and friends to call him on your phone and you can stand there and even hold the phone for him if needed as he talks.
And why is he in a car long enough to mess with anything in it? At this point he should only be in the car if you're having to take him to the doctors, which should limit his ability to mess with anything.
My late husband(who had vascular dementia)had a lot of trouble trying to figure out the TV remote the last few years of his life and he messed things up a lot, where I'd have to call Spectrum to have them help me get things back right.
There were times when I would just have to take the remote away after I put the TV on a show that I knew he liked to watch. We as caregivers have to do what we have to do for our own peace of mind and sanity sometimes, and if that means taking away the things our loved ones mess with continually, then so be it.
It certainly wouldn't hurt trying to keep his hands occupied on something that he can't mess up, like a child's toy of some kind, but in the meantime take away those things that he can mess up.
Best wishes.
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Thank you to all those who answered. It helps so much to know others care and have been thru it as well.
He starts PT and OT next week. His neurologist is going to call later today with suggestions for increased meds.
He fell over the weekend and went to the ER. I was hoping they would admit him so I could ask the hospital to release him to a facility. But by the time I got to the hospital, they had already released him and the Dr acted like he didn’t believe me when I told him how difficult it has become.
A Social Worker is coming out this week to discuss “next steps” and I see an Elder Law Attorney in Feb.
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AlvaDeer Jan 2, 2024
Thank you for updating us, P. Wishing you good luck and hope you will keep updating us on your situation.
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I understand your frustration. Truly, I do because I cared for my mom who had Parkinson’s disease.

Tremors go along with Parkinson’s disease. Meds only help so much and when they begin to wear off the tremors begin again.

Parkinson’s is a neurological condition. Your husband isn’t able to control his tremors. That’s not how it works.

Giving your husband instructions isn’t going to change his medical condition.

Have you spoken with his neurologist to see if his medication needs adjusting? My mother had to occasionally change the dosage of her meds.

Dementia can accompany Parkinson’s disease. My mother developed dementia later in life. She pushed buttons at certain times. After a while she wasn’t capable of using her iPhone anymore. Her tremors were extremely annoying to her.

Please understand that your husband isn’t doing anything on purpose and it is frustrating for him too. Parkinson’s is progressive disease. It becomes more of a burden as times goes by.

Wishing you and your husband well.
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I wonder if occupational therapy may have any ideas of some things ( toys ) to keep him busy .
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Penguina Jan 2, 2024
He starts occupational therapy next week. Maybe it will help.
His newest bad behavior is losing his temper and hurting me. He stomped my foot so hard I thought he broke my toe then when I was trying to help him transfer to the bed he elbowed me in the mouth and busted my lip. He says it’s accidental but I’m not so sure. I will be talking with his neurologist today.
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I like Geaton's idea as a try. But I do worry about broken electrical things in terms of shock and so on. This certainly is a problem. I would try anything to try to busy him. Broken dial timers, whatever and just ask "Do you think you can fix this for me".
Wow, this is a problem. Are there other problems as well which may make you consider that the time you can control all of this is nearing an end?

I wonder if there is any kind of a cover that can be made for some of these things, with a lock, but some handiman or someonething that is listed in "child proofing" catalogs.

So sorry you are having to deal with this. He's still a Mr. Fix-it.
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Geaton777 Dec 2023
She can cut the electrical cords iin advance of giving it to him so there's nothing to plug in. He probably won't even question it. The point is not for him to actually fix it, the point is to keep him occupied in something that he's obviously interested in. There's no wrong answer in whatever he does with what he's given.
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I gave this one to my engineer husband to think about, and he’s asked for a bit more information about your DH.

1) His manual dexterity – does he have arthritis in his fingers, or can he still manipulate small parts?
2) His mind- does he just like taking things apart (destroying them, like the grandson), or does he try to put things together (even if he fails)?

You can message me with details if you want. My DH was quite shocked at the idea of giving him pre-school lego!

He also liked the idea of getting stuff from an OP shop (our local tip shop is particularly good with this sort of thing), and letting him go his hardest. Electrical is fine, just cut the plug off. Tell him you can get a new plug put on if it’s fixed (true).
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Penguina Jan 2, 2024
Thanks for your message. I’ve been so busy it’s hard to even read these much less answer. But I do appreciate your thoughts.
My husband has no manual dexterity at all due to severe tremors. He can’t feed himself anymore. Can’t write or read. He has always been handy with electronics, tools, building, working on cars. He can take stuff apart but cannot put it back together. He was an Air Traffic Controller (I was too) and has worked as an electrician and a stock market portfolio manager. This disease has devastated us both.
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Put a plastic cover on the thermostat. Get him a landline instead of a smartphone.

I'd buy him some Legos, ask him to make something good. A child's electronics kit sounds great, if he won't try to plug it in. I'd put PLAIN covers on the empty outlets for sure.

Basically "childproof" where he is. I'd hide the TV remotes myself. Last week my Ex took apart my vacuum cleaner, when I asked him to vacuum a small area. I found it spread across the garage. Good thing I knew how to put it back together, or he would have had to buy me a new one.
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For your own safety please don’t take him alone in your car. Especially since he doesn’t respond when you tell him to stop. More than once I’ve heard of people who can suddenly create beautiful art while they go through certain phases of dementia. Perhaps his mind is actually in a creative mode. Like Geaton suggested, perhaps he could enjoy some simple items to take apart and put back together (if he is interested in putting them back together). You could check out thrift stores, scrap metal places to see what you could find. I think I would cut the electrical cords off of them. There is a boxing program called Rock Steady for folks with Parkinson’s. My aunt went to one. Try to find one in your area. It might help him use some of his energy in a less destructive way. Here is a link to one at a Y that gives more info. https://www.genevalakesymca.org/main/rock-steady-boxingKeep a food diary for awhile to see if sugar or caffeine make him more or less active.

I assume you’ve spoken with his neurologist for suggestions. Did their office give you suggestions?

This must be so stressful for you. I’m sorry.
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You can't get him to stop.
He does not understand, you can tell him but his brain will not retain the No's and the Why's and Why not's.

You could try getting him electronic equipment for him to play with. As long as it is safe.
You might even want to pick up stuff from a resale shop and give him things he can take apart.

You need to "hide" remotes. He may be close to not having a cell phone.
And when you say he messes with the car...I hope he is not driving still. That needs to stop if he is still driving.

If he knows what Chanel he wants I am pretty sure Alexa can change tv channels.
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Nacagi Dec 2023
Sure channels with classic "old" shows with "Walker" thrown in.
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