Are you sure you want to exit? Your progress will be lost.
Who are you caring for?
Which best describes their mobility?
How well are they maintaining their hygiene?
How are they managing their medications?
Does their living environment pose any safety concerns?
Fall risks, spoiled food, or other threats to wellbeing
Are they experiencing any memory loss?
Which best describes your loved one's social life?
Acknowledgment of Disclosures and Authorization
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington. Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services. APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid. We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour. APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment. You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints. Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights. APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.I agree that: A.I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information"). B.APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink. C.APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site. D.If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records. E.This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year. F.You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
✔
I acknowledge and authorize
✔
I consent to the collection of my consumer health data.*
✔
I consent to the sharing of my consumer health data with qualified home care agencies.*
*If I am consenting on behalf of someone else, I have the proper authorization to do so. By clicking Get My Results, you agree to our Privacy Policy. You also consent to receive calls and texts, which may be autodialed, from us and our customer communities. Your consent is not a condition to using our service. Please visit our Terms of Use. for information about our privacy practices.
Mostly Independent
Your loved one may not require home care or assisted living services at this time. However, continue to monitor their condition for changes and consider occasional in-home care services for help as needed.
Remember, this assessment is not a substitute for professional advice.
Share a few details and we will match you to trusted home care in your area:
BIGMAMAMOORE, I am sorry for the loss of your dad. Falling and getting injured is extremely common in the elderly. My auntie has fallen and broken bones in her own home 3x the past 2 years all under the watchful eyes of my cousins (her caregivers) and in-home agency helpers. NHs cannot restrain residents, and falling at night is a huge problem because many are getting out of bed to go to the bathroom. They dont remember to press the Help button at their bedside. Even if they do that they don't wait for the help to arrive. They get disoriented in the dark, and depending on their age, are so wobbly in their balance they just fall and there are lots of hard things to bump against. BarbBrooklyn has asked good questions for you to pursue, so please do as recommended. I wish you peace in your heart in the coming days.
So true. That's exactly what has been happening to my mom - they don't sleep well, get out of bed to go to the bathroom, don't remember to press the call button, if they do, they don't wait and on and on. And your right, the facilities can't restrain them. The best they are able to do for my mom under hospice direction is they gave her a very low dosage of medication to take the edge off which in turn helped her to sleep better and it did therefore preventing those middle of the night falls. Also, hospice provided a fall mat to place on the floor beside her bed. As far as I know, she hasn't fallen during the night ever since but, has had a few falls during the daytime.
I'm sorry for your loss. Falls and injuries from falls are quite common with seniors. If you have reason to doubt what happened, you can explore a copy of the report on it. You might even consult with an attorney to explore what happened in more detail and if there was any negligence. I wouldn't wait though, as there are time deadlines.
Please accept my condolences on the loss of your father. It must be such a shock, and so difficult, but know that you'll have sympathy and support from the folks here.
As to the cause of death, my first thought after reading Barb's inquiry was whether or not your father hit his head, hemorrhaged, and died from that.
Assuming the hospital had an attending or other physician prepared the Death Certificate, the causes should be listed, and that would be my first step - to find out the causes. Also assuming arrangements have been made for him to be taken to a funeral home, it may also have access to the Death Certificate.
If he wasn't taken to an ER and the nursing home attending doctor prepared the death certificate, contact that NH. The DON (Director of Nursing) should be able to give you the cause of death, and probably would discuss delivery of your father's body to the funeral home of your choice.
These are the first calls I'd make.
And I hope you can get answers that provide comfort to you at this very sad time.
May God grant you grieving mercies and comfort during this difficult time.
It happens. He was in a nursing home because he was at the end of his journey. I would be thankful that he didn't suffer more by lingering for months. Try not to look for someone to blame, it was his time to go.
Please accept my sincere condolences for having lost your father. Your emotions are running high which is normal and natural as the shock and grief begin to set in. You are desperately searching for answers and the reasons why things happened the way they did. We always want to know the "whys" of everything unpleasant and painful that we experience along life's journey.
Most elderly people do take many falls for a variety of reasons. I thought my mom would never fall because she had taken such good care of herself over the years. Yet, I was still shocked the first time she fell in her apartment at an AL facility several years ago. Actually, looking back she had fallen prior to that back in 2007 in her backyard when she was still living in her home. She fell off a short step stool while trimming a small tree. She had to crawl to get to her back door in order to call me - she had fractured her wrist trying to "break" her fall. Now, that she is no longer able to even walk due to getting COVID in April and is under hospice care in her new facilities memory care unit, she has fallen at least six times since moving there the last part of May. Some may fall because they are weaker than they realize, they lose their balance, some form of medication may have a sedating side effect, there are other health-related issues coming into play - bad hips and/or knees, vision issues, vertigo. These are just to name a few. If they end up fracturing or breaking something due to the fall or hit their head which can become very serious those things can bring about a very quick decline or even death.
What I've noticed in a variety of caregiver questions/comments, is we simply don't want to "let go" and we want to prevent anything and everything from happening to them because we don't want to see them suffer or get hurt along with not wanting to lose them. We are often trying so hard to "control" how their illness plays out. But, unfortunately we can't - we are human, we may make a wrong decision here and there, we may not be able to be with our loved one at a particular moment in time and so on. We want everything to make sense and when it doesn't, we replay everything that happened up until those "last" moments.
I know that none of the things that happen to our loved ones or even ourselves for that matter takes God by surprise. He is aware of everything before it even happens and that's what I try to remember in situations like these. It's when I remember that, I am then able to focus on dealing with my loss and grief.
I wish you peace of mind as you try to move forward! Take care of yourself -
Hello BigMama, Sorry for the loss of your dad. My thoughts and prayers are with you during this difficult time. GardenArtist offers very good advice, I would follow up with her advice.
Sorry to hear about your Dad. Many times we get warning signs about our LO’s impending death. Otherwise it can take us by surprise. If it was unexpected you may wonder how did it happen; unless you were present at the occurrence. You are entitled to ask questions about your Dad’s situation. If you are not satisfied with those answers then you should seek legal assistance because what happens in a NH tends to stay in the NH.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
A.
I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
B.
APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
C.
APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
D.
If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records.
E.
This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
F.
You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
Was your dad transported to the ER after the fall or was he examined by a medical professional at the NH?
Are you suspicious that when they called you to tell you about the fall, something else was going on?
There is no way for us to know, of course. Who at the facility have you spoken to?
Again, this is terribly sad, and I'm sorry.
As to the cause of death, my first thought after reading Barb's inquiry was whether or not your father hit his head, hemorrhaged, and died from that.
Assuming the hospital had an attending or other physician prepared the Death Certificate, the causes should be listed, and that would be my first step - to find out the causes. Also assuming arrangements have been made for him to be taken to a funeral home, it may also have access to the Death Certificate.
If he wasn't taken to an ER and the nursing home attending doctor prepared the death certificate, contact that NH. The DON (Director of Nursing) should be able to give you the cause of death, and probably would discuss delivery of your father's body to the funeral home of your choice.
These are the first calls I'd make.
And I hope you can get answers that provide comfort to you at this very sad time.
May God grant you grieving mercies and comfort during this difficult time.
It happens. He was in a nursing home because he was at the end of his journey. I would be thankful that he didn't suffer more by lingering for months. Try not to look for someone to blame, it was his time to go.
Please accept my sincere condolences for having lost your father. Your emotions are running high which is normal and natural as the shock and grief begin to set in. You are desperately searching for answers and the reasons why things happened the way they did. We always want to know the "whys" of everything unpleasant and painful that we experience along life's journey.
Most elderly people do take many falls for a variety of reasons. I thought my mom would never fall because she had taken such good care of herself over the years. Yet, I was still shocked the first time she fell in her apartment at an AL facility several years ago. Actually, looking back she had fallen prior to that back in 2007 in her backyard when she was still living in her home. She fell off a short step stool while trimming a small tree. She had to crawl to get to her back door in order to call me - she had fractured her wrist trying to "break" her fall. Now, that she is no longer able to even walk due to getting COVID in April and is under hospice care in her new facilities memory care unit, she has fallen at least six times since moving there the last part of May. Some may fall because they are weaker than they realize, they lose their balance, some form of medication may have a sedating side effect, there are other health-related issues coming into play - bad hips and/or knees, vision issues, vertigo. These are just to name a few. If they end up fracturing or breaking something due to the fall or hit their head which can become very serious those things can bring about a very quick decline or even death.
What I've noticed in a variety of caregiver questions/comments, is we simply don't want to "let go" and we want to prevent anything and everything from happening to them because we don't want to see them suffer or get hurt along with not wanting to lose them. We are often trying so hard to "control" how their illness plays out. But, unfortunately we can't - we are human, we may make a wrong decision here and there, we may not be able to be with our loved one at a particular moment in time and so on. We want everything to make sense and when it doesn't, we replay everything that happened up until those "last" moments.
I know that none of the things that happen to our loved ones or even ourselves for that matter takes God by surprise. He is aware of everything before it even happens and that's what I try to remember in situations like these. It's when I remember that, I am then able to focus on dealing with my loss and grief.
I wish you peace of mind as you try to move forward! Take care of yourself -
GardenArtist offers very good advice, I would follow up with her advice.
To me this does not sound kosher and it makes me angry
I know others here have been more understanding for the NH and that is good. I am not there yet.